Author Topic: Edited Voices in Style Channels  (Read 1588 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline casper

Edited Voices in Style Channels
« on: February 20, 2024, 12:03:28 PM »
Hi,
I edited one of the onboard factory voices, saved it and tried using it to revoice a channel in a style, e.g. Chord 1. However, the revoicing function kept reverting to the factory voice of the edited one. The same thing happened with other edited voices. Thus, I conclude that an edited voice cannot be used to replace the voice in a style channel. Can anyone here please clarify? Thanks in advance.
Khaw Hock Lye
PSR SX900
PSR Tutorial Performer
 

Offline DerekA

Re: Edited Voices in Style Channels
« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2024, 12:36:13 PM »
That is correct, you cannot use an edited voice in a style channel. That is, any edits made using Voice Set will not work. Edits made via the mixing console - including DSP assignments, filter, cutoff etc - *will* be kept if you save the modified style as part of a registration. (Saving DSP parameters came in with models released after the Tyros 5).

To be clear you can create a custom voice in YEM, and load that to expansion memory - that will work in a style.
« Last Edit: February 20, 2024, 12:39:41 PM by DerekA »
Genos
 

Offline casper

Re: Edited Voices in Style Channels
« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2024, 10:58:09 AM »
Thank you, Derek, for the clarification. So technically, an edited voice can be used but one needs to go through the YEM hassle for it to become an expansion voice first which takes up valuable space in the keyboard's expansion memory.
Khaw Hock Lye
PSR SX900
PSR Tutorial Performer
 

Offline BogdanH

Re: Edited Voices in Style Channels
« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2024, 02:14:42 PM »
hi casper,
You are basically correct. But even if we use onboard voices in style, they won't necessary sound the same as if they're used for Right hand playing. Let me explain...

Every voice has certain settings (which you can see if you open Voice Edit). When voice is used in style, these settings aren't applied -default settings are used instead.
Experiment:
Assign S.Art Shadowed guitar (008-056-004) voice for Righ1. If you keep pressed some note longer, you will notice it has light vibrato. Now use the same voice in Style Creator and you will hear that there's no vibrato anymore.

Bogdan
PSR-SX700 on K&M-18820 stand
Playing for myself on Youtube
 
The following users thanked this post: mhack

Offline pjd

Re: Edited Voices in Style Channels
« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2024, 07:09:51 PM »

Time to learn about the Mixer! A big part of voice preset programming is the DSP effects. You can change the system level chorus and reverb types. Plus, if you dive into the insert effects, you can set the insert (or variation) effect for the style. Once you make changes in the Mixer, save the style and make sure the Mixer settings are included with the saved style.

Hope this helps -- pj
 
The following users thanked this post: hans1966

Offline casper

Re: Edited Voices in Style Channels
« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2024, 10:08:58 AM »
Thank you Bogdan and pj for the further elaboration.
Khaw Hock Lye
PSR SX900
PSR Tutorial Performer