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What is your preferred playing
style:
lead sheet with chords, sheet music, or strictly by ear?
The discussion below
is taken from a thread launched by Scotty Yee on the Synth Zone
General Arranger forum. Click
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Scottyee
01-26-2003
11:36 PM
I realize we all come from varying keyboard playing backgrounds,
as well as differing music education experiences. Some of
us are formally trained and can easily "sight read" complicated
written song arrangements, yet may have great difficulty playing
by ear, while others can't read a note, yet are able to easily
pick up and play a song (including the chords) entirely by
ear. The ideal situation is to become proficient at both
"playing by ear" and
"sight reading." The reality for most of us though is different.
Typically, formally trained players who learn to play music
by reading music, are weak at playing by ear, while players
who play strictly by ear, can't read music very well, if at
all.
I
started piano lessons at 4 and began to read music even before
mastering the alphabet and reading words. Though I eventually
learned to sight read and play almost any piece of music put
in front of me, it was always a struggle to play a song by
ear. It wasn't until I got to college and took musical ear
training and music theory classes that I finally began to
develop "playing by ear" skills.
Even
so, I now still feel more comfortable having a lead sheet
(single note melody line and chords only) at hand, even when
performing, to provide a road map (chord progression) of the
song, making it possible for me to successfully perform audience
requested tunes that I may not be as familiar with. In order
for me to perform a large repertoire of hundreds of songs
beyond my core memorized material, I rely on fake book style
lead sheets to help me out. Still, I'm very careful never
to position the music stand or music to block my view of the
audience (or them of me), and always keep 98% of my attention
on the audience, with the lead sheet acting only as an on-stage
cue card to glance at when needed.
Realizing
there is no one right or wrong way to approach keyboard playing,
I'm curious to hear how others of you (both pro and amateur
players) learned how to play the keyboard, and what method(s)
you use when learning new songs, playing at home, for
friends, and gigging out professionally. Do you play strictly
by ear, play only fully memorized songs, utilize a lead sheet
(with melody line and chords only), or prefer playing from
sheet music which includes a full arrangement (both right
and left hand)?
Everyone's
input and feedback greatly appreciated.
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Graham UK
01-27-2003
12:12 AM
Scott, I can play
only from sheet music, which gives me a lot of pleasure. The
downside is I can not improvise very well, which I would like
to do, if I had started playing by ear I think the improvisation
would have come naturally.
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DonM
01-27-2003
12:48 AM
I have many songs memorized. I have a stack of books containing
charts that I've made over the years. Many nights I never
open one, but as Scott says, they are often worth a nice tip
or two. They have lyrics with chord names over, or in front
of, the words.
I
used to use fake books a lot, but not much any more, because
most of them aren't really true to the recordings. I learned
to read the lead line from playing trumpet in school.
I plan to get a laptop very soon so the books will be history
as soon as I get all the songs transferred. The ones from
the past few years are already in computer, but there are
still many I have to enter.
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MacAllcock
01-27-2003
01:13 AM
I think I must be lucky -- I can play by ear, but I can
read as well. The reading is frankly rusty because I don't
do it very often. I have a few "melody + chords /lyrics" books
around for all those songs everyone knows the first line to,
but I only use them if I have to for requests.
For
"popular" stuff I prefer melody + chords to full transcriptions,
especially given that there's an awful lot of dodgy transcription
out there (have a look at the sheet music to Diana Ross -
Why Do Fools Fall In Love - its just the Frankie Lymon
version with Diana's picture on the front -- and even then
its still wrong!).
If
I may be so bold, a related topic about how we remember tunes.
I find once I know a song properly, I can usually play it
in any key because my brain seems to remember the song in
a "start here and then the changes sound like this.". Even
stranger, I play bass pedals with my left foot and even if
I totally lose the plot with my hands and can't remember the
tune, I just keep playing the bass line until the rest of
me catches up! Weird or what?
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cam8neel
01-27-2003
04:56 AM
Not proud of it,
but I play totally by ear, although I can read charts also.
At a very early age, I was able to listen to a song a couple
of times, and then duplicate it on organ or piano. My parents
thought I was an alien, since I started doing so at the age
of four! --Angelo
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Pilot
01-27-2003
05:25 AM
I used to read music
and then play from memory and also play by ear, but these
days my memory ain't what it used to be. I can remember the
tunes but not always the chords so I use fake books as an
aide memoir.
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RicFreak
01-27-2003
05:29 AM
I
mainly play by ear, because I am not able to directly read-and-play.
Only when I have to learn something difficult or when I want
to play exactly what's written, I start reading musing and
learning. But it is a long process.
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Maged
01-27-2003
05:33 AM
I
started off playing by ear when I was 5 years old, then, at
the age of 15, I started taking music lessons to learn how
to read music notes. After 5 months I was able to read
and play, but I felt that I was loosing my ear sense of music
because I had to read everything I played. Then at the age
of 17, I decided to go back to playing by ear (till now).
I think I did the right thing because every time I meet one
of my old colleagues at the music school, I can tell from
their playing style that they haven't improved a lot over
the last 20 years.
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The Pro
01-27-2003
06:32 AM
I can play by ear especially well and can read music proficiently,
but I rely on hearing more than sight and imagination more
than either. Improvisation is my specialty, "sight reading"
is probably my weakest area but I can do it when I have to.
I
started playing about the age of five totally by ear and could
play anything I heard. I began lessons at the age of nine.
By the age of 14 I was playing both solo and in bands professionally
and I never stopped. I had a great high school music teacher
that taught real theory and composition classes that helped
solidify my reading and writing comprehension a lot. I won
several talent shows and competitions in my youth and have
performed as guest soloist with major symphonies.
I
rely equally on memory and on single and double-page lead sheets
as Scott does, but mostly I have created my own rather than
rely on the Hal Leonard variety (print is too small for stage
use). Recently, I found a fake book I love: Warner Brothers
"Just Jazz Real Book." These lead sheets are
easy to read and can be copied and used right from the book.
There is a "Just Standards" in this series too.
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tony mads usa
01-27-2003
06:38 AM
I wish I had the natural talent or training to play by "ear."
I admire musicians who can hear where the chord changes are
going. Obviously, except for a ton of songs I've memorized,
I play with music, mostly lead sheets with lyrics, lyrics
with chords over them, or fake books. I make up my own
"book" of tunes I play by making copies from the books I purchase.
I have found that using the arranger keyboard (KN6000) my
ear is getting better, especially if playing along with a
midi file, but I'm not going to be doing any "open mike nights"
anytime soon
PS
A lifetime ago when I was teaching accordion, an adult came
to the studio saying he wanted to learn how to play by reading
music. After a few weeks, I felt he was still relying on his
ear, even though he denied it. So I wrote out something
like "Mary had a little lamb" but titled it "Popeye the sailor
man." Sure enough, one week later the student gave me
a great rendition of "Popeye." -- t.
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matias
01-27-2003
07:01 AM
I began formal musical training by the age of 8 and never
had "play by ear" lessons. I learned to play by ear much later,
by the age of 17/18, and all by myself. Later, I developed
an interest for jazz/latin music, listened to a lot of records,
and took some lessons (for a short time, unfortunately) with
two jazz pianists.
My
approach to learning songs is the following. Most of the songs
that people expect that I play, are Portuguese pop, Portuguese
popular, Brazilian standards, latin, and some international
[English/American pop, some country, mainly] and have a rather
simple chord structure / melody. I normally easily memorize
the chord progression (no "complicated" chords are needed;
minor, 7ths, 6ths are usually enough) and the main melody
line, from hearing a record of the song (or 2/3 different
versions). All I have in front of me when I play live, are
the lyrics (no chord table or lead sheet), except in the case
of a more unusual progression that I tend to forget (in that
case I write a note near the lyrics). The exceptions are jazz
or jazzy tunes, Jobim tunes, etc., that require more refined
chords. In these cases I always have a lead sheet with chords.
My audiences -- in parties or clubs -- generally prefer "easy
tunes," however, when in a lounge venue, I play mostly by
lead sheet w/ Chords.
Examples:
Girl from Ipanema, One Note Samba, Tenderly
(lead sheet w/ Chords); I play a country medley - Blowin'in
the Wind + Take Me Home, Country Roads - entirely
by ear. -- José.
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travlin'easy
01-27-2003 07:19 AM
Though I've been trying to learn to read music for three
decades, there has always been a mental block to the translating
of the symbols in the cobwebs of my mind. I began playing
music at age 4 when I sat down at my aunt's piano and plinked
Tennessee
Waltz in the key of C. Instantly, my mother insisted
that I take piano lessons, which I did for just over a year.
Unfortunately, I never was able to comprehend sheet music,
but for some strange reason, I've always been able to hear
a song one or two times and then play it. My wife says I could
have taken Dustin Hoffman's role in Rain Main. These days,
I still have to glance at the lyrics once in a while (the
mind was the second thing to go in the aging process), and
I'm still trying to learn to read, but every time I look at
the sheet music, the song just pops into my head and I play
it. I may miss a chord or two in a progressive run, but most
of the time, unless you were an accomplished musician, the
audiences never know.
Though
I wish I could read, there is a lot to be said for those who
cannot. I have several friends that read and they do not have
the ability to ad lib, extend the length of a song when the
dance floor is filled to capacity or play a song in any key
other than the one on the sheet music. Those of us that can't,
have all those things going for us.
Maybe
one day I'll learn to read, but it's sure tough when you reach
Social Security age to teach an old dog new tricks.
Cheers, -- Gary
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btweengigs
01-27-2003
09:05 AM
Being able to read
has always been on my wish list, along with wishing to be
taller, slimmer, better looking, etc. But the fact is, I was
invited to cease piano lessons as a kid due to the generation
gap between me and my teacher. Her idea of music and mine
were miles apart. I doubt the words "Rock and Roll,"
"Country" or "Blues" were in her vocabulary. But, I loved
music and, through shear tenacity, learned to play by ear.
Where there is a will...... -- Eddie
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Starkeeper
01-27-2003
12:32 PM
I started playing
organ in my early teens using sheet music. My teacher taught
me music theory as well. I quit after three years, not sure
why. Just took up keyboards again in my early 50's. I looked
for contemporary Christian music that I wanted to play on
the Internet and found only lyrics and chords. Since I heard
these songs many times before, I played the melody by ear.
In a few months I had accidentally taught myself to play by
ear. Still need to know what the chords are though. This means
you can teach yourself to play by ear: put the sheet
notes away and force yourself to figure it out. I will have
to put the chords away to teach myself to hear the chords,
but I'm sure this can be done.
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Alex K
01-27-2003
01:22 PM
I play mostly by ear/from memory. Although I can play in
most easy keys (up to 4 sharps or flats), I find it easier
to play in one or two keys. Lately, though, I find myself
performing a lot more, and as I expand my repertoire to the
music which is not all familiar, I find it comforting to have
lead sheets to remind me of how it goes. Except for the most
harmonically-challenging pieces, I do not use the chords on
the lead sheet, but play my own harmonies, though I am talking
about popular/not so popular music, not Debussy or Stravinsky.
Regrettably,
I am not able to read music in real time, while playing the
keyboard with the accompaniment going, though I could do it
for clarinet (that was my musical training), decades ago.
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Bluezplayer
01-27-2003 03:32 PM
I started playing organ at about age 4 and, although we
had music books and something similar to the fake books described,
I was not able to read them at that point. I was able to read
a little music, and real words as well, by the time I started
the first grade, but I soon found that that I derived a lot
more pleasure when I played by ear, and subsequently that
I was better at that than playing from notation.
Today
I can read standard notation, but I'm not particularly good
at doing it in real time. As I grew up I found that reading
music did help me to learn the proper fingering / notes for
the complex chords and scales, but I still prefer "ear" play.
The other thing that has helped me though is reading and understanding
midi notation. Those who still believe in learning by standard
notation might want to disagree, and that's OK too, but with
midi technology at the forefront, (particularly for me as
a keyboard player in today's world), midi notation has been
instrumental in helping me to write music and to better understand
(and use in real time) different timings and patterns in general.
--AJ
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trtjazz
01-27-2003
07:03 PM
Pete Seeger once said when asked this Q in an interview,
"Pete, do you read music?" Pete's reply, "not enough to hurt
my playing."
I
agree with his reply and prefer to be a better ear player
for improvisation reasons, which to me is where some of the
most happenin' music comes out. People just jammin' freely
sans the confines of charts. Jam on, --Terry
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Bob Gelman
01-30-2003 09:15 AM
I
can't play be ear at all. I always use mostly Fake
Books
and improvise a bit, although my playing is rather primitive,
given what I could/should have learned over the years. Lazy,
lazy, lazy.
People
who play and can't read music are really "illiterate," aren't
they? However, music is an auditory medium, not a visual one.
Does anyone sit down and enjoy reading a good music
book? No, we listen to music. I'm always astounded
that some of our very best musicians (believe me, some
are fantastic) who send us songs in our PSR
Songs Group sheepishly admit
that they can't read music at all. I've often
wondered why. How could it be that someone would be so focused
on music to play that well would not bother learning to even
read a simple melody line. Reading some of the responses
here gave me some clues. I had never thought that the written
music could come between a musician and the music. Interesting.
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Chuck Piper
02-07-2003
03:50 PM
Hi Scott, How are you my friend? Guess I'll be the one to
resurrect this thread. I just dropped in from the Technics
Forum to browse and discovered the thread you initiated some
time ago. I have enjoyed reading all of the responses. They
are so interesting.
As
you know, Scott, I am in my 70s now and am trying to learn
to play an arranger keyboard. While I am pleased with the
progress I've made in slightly more than a year, I know that
I will never be able to play as well as I would like.
I
am a reader. My musical training began at age 7 when my parents
encouraged me to play a trombone. I studied the instrument
formally for almost 12 years and played it well. Sadly, I
stopped playing when I enlisted in the Air Force. I say "sadly"
in retrospect of course.
I
taught myself to play a little guitar over the years (haven't
played for many years now) and was playing guitar in a small
combo in Saudi Arabia in the 80s. That is where I acquired
my desire to learn to play a keyboard (I always tinkered around
with our piano player's Roland when taking a break during
rehearsals). So I bought a little Casio board (it was the
only keyboard available in the village market shop) and began
to teach myself to play. Our piano player was an ear player.
I bought the usual "teach yourself" tutors, but never progressed
very far.
Now,
I have the KN6000, a teacher, and I am finally realizing my
dream of being able to play the music I love. But I'm still
a reader. I use the chord symbol/melody line type of music
notation. I envy those who can play by ear. One contributor
remarked that ear players seem to be able to improvise more
easily than readers. I would agree. It is certainly true in
my case. Improvisation is hard for me although I am improving
little by little. I do believe improvisation is an acquired
skill whether you hear it naturally and practice it or whether
you are taught to improvise. I also believe one has to be
a good listener and listen a lot to musicians improvising
in order to "pick up their licks," then practice them until
they become a natural part of one's improvisation repertoire/skill.
All of you who have contributed to this thread have given
me a great read. Thanks a lot. Most Sincerely,
-- Chuck
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S0C9
02-07-2003
06:05 PM
Most people (including a number of musicians) seem to forget
that there's a major difference between being able to "read"
music -- which I can -- and play a particular instrument at
the same time.
For
example -- excuse me if this is too basic -- middle C is slap
bang in the middle of the treble clef -- and the 88 key piano.
But on a clarinet or flute it's not in the "middle."
And on a guitar, middle "C" can be played in about six different
places -- same note!
My
point is: saying that one can read music does not necessitate
the ability to play directly from it. I can read music, but
not well enough [any more] to "sight-read" for a piano, or
any other instrument I now play. Playing is now done mainly
by ear, and yes... improvising is a no-brainer once you've
learnt a few basic pentatonic major and minor scales plus
the blues scale. I have no trouble doing that, and most rock/country
lead guitar [my main instrument now] is pentatonic based.
Can I do that on the keyboard. Well, NO! Not yet, but I'm
working on it.
Regards, -- Steve
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trtjazz
02-08-2003 05:17 AM
Here's what excites me about being a by-ear player. I can
just sit in with someone and play, then play the song again
and do something totally different the second time around
(improv). Besides the skill involved, the other thing is that
it is fresh and new every time for me. I need that because
I have the attention span of a 3-year-old
Oscar Peterson once said in an interview when asked if he
preferred playing with the trio or solo. He said "what
I don't like about playing with the trio, is that I am committed
to playing a tune the same way every time and man that gets
old fast."
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danb
02-09-2003 12:14 AM
Written music or sheet is like a user's guide or manual,
it can be a map or schematic diagram or blueprints. Once you
are familiar with it, then you don't need it. I preferred
ear playing. I can read notes, symbols, chords and charts,
but I am not a sight reader. I can play by ear proficiently.
I can identify chords progression even with my eyes are closed.
I don't trust those fake books sometimes. Some chords are
not correctly emphasized. I don't envy those people who can
read music, but I am more impressed by those who can write
notes or music even without using instruments in front of
them.
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trtjazz
02-09-2003 06:59 AM
danb: I don't envy those people who
can read music but I am more impressed by those who can
write notes or music even without using instruments in front
of them.
Now add to that Beethoven going deaf and still creating beautiful
music, because he heard it in his head! WOW. I just wish these
voices in my head would start singing or humming melody lines
to me instead of just yaking all the time.
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Uncle Dave
02-09-2003 08:36 AM
I don't hear any voices in my head .........and neither
do I!
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KN_Fan
02-10-2003 01:52 PM
For somebody who took classical piano for six years, my reading
is pretty poor. I read reaaaally slow. I prefer to just read
Chord sheet and play along. I can, however, play most songs
just by listening to it once/twice.
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